Many Webmasters and Publishers Are Still Hooked On PageRank!
Many website owners around the world have Google® PageRankTM (PR) on their minds these days. An interesting PageRank update happened recently, an update that added PR to index pages and certain internal pages that were heretofore languishing in PR0 territory. From what I've read in certain forums, pages with established toolbar PR have either stayed the same or experienced a moderate PR demotion.
Yeah, many of us were addicted to PR back when Google was the undisputed king of search. But now with other major players like Yahoo! and Ask.com aggressively improving the relevance of their search engine results pages (SERP's), many of us aren't as gung-ho about PR as we used to be. I think a lot of publishers out there are like me when it comes to PR: as long as my pages have some PR, that's just fine.
Of course, if a site has PR0 after months of white hat search engine optimization (SEO) then we panic, because if a site has nothing but PR0 pages despite serious promotion, then the site may have been completely and permanently delisted from the Google index, and that is definitely something to panic about.
PR Addiction Still Driving Site Owners Crazy!
Judging by the chatter in the forums where I often hangout, there are still quite a few site owners out there who are still addicted to PR. They act like PR is everything, like PR is all that matters, like...like if the index page of their flagship website dropped from PR5 to PR3, a deep and dark depression would ensue.
Are you still addicted to PR? Please take a moment to vote in the new Domain Blog Poll about PR (click here.) Your participation is appreciated, and feel free to post a comment here if you have some thoughts to contribute. Thanks!
Yeah, many of us were addicted to PR back when Google was the undisputed king of search. But now with other major players like Yahoo! and Ask.com aggressively improving the relevance of their search engine results pages (SERP's), many of us aren't as gung-ho about PR as we used to be. I think a lot of publishers out there are like me when it comes to PR: as long as my pages have some PR, that's just fine.
Of course, if a site has PR0 after months of white hat search engine optimization (SEO) then we panic, because if a site has nothing but PR0 pages despite serious promotion, then the site may have been completely and permanently delisted from the Google index, and that is definitely something to panic about.
PR Addiction Still Driving Site Owners Crazy!
Judging by the chatter in the forums where I often hangout, there are still quite a few site owners out there who are still addicted to PR. They act like PR is everything, like PR is all that matters, like...like if the index page of their flagship website dropped from PR5 to PR3, a deep and dark depression would ensue.
Are you still addicted to PR? Please take a moment to vote in the new Domain Blog Poll about PR (click here.) Your participation is appreciated, and feel free to post a comment here if you have some thoughts to contribute. Thanks!
posted by FeelessBalanceTransfer.com | Monday, July 17, 2006
27 Comments:
I own three websites. One being a .ws, the other a subdomain of it, and a third is a .info. The .info site only started two weeks ago, so that has no PR, while the other two sites do. My .ws has a PR 4 and so does the subdomain. I am also a web designer and in every template I let the public download, there is a link to my website. I think this is the biggest contribution to my high PR. I wasn't expecting a PR 4 for my first PR though, I thought it would go up in steps, but obviously not. As for the reasoning behind good PR? There are many advantages - firstly, I can sell ad space for higher and secondly, visitors will know that they are at a site that they can trust. Additionally, PR can determine my sites popularity, which I find also important. I don't believe PRs should be used as a main point for advertising though. It is only one of many factors that should be considered.
i own three websites and one which is a forum and it gets more hits a day and always google crawls on my forum.i didnt started to sell adspace because i need some more members and daily hits to my site so my page rank should increase.and also as a publisher i would making few bucks but in future i will make more bucks once page rank increased.
PR is an important indication of how famous your site is, with reference to the google bot.
Usually high PR implies higher ranking in all famous search engine. But PR aren't everything.
I have a couple of site, including my Atomise .NET blog, which was PR3. I have no reason why due to the recent change, my PR went to 2. Anyway, the traffic is still the same, i do still receive some offer. and yup, it's a good site to come with.
Another undeveloped .info of mine surprising received PR3.
Morale of story, PR (page ranking) is not everything.
I still believe as long you got a good site, good content and feature. with consistent traffic. it is still wonderful even with a low PR
I own 2 websites...one has a PR 5 and other recently got PR 4 with this recent update. For me PR is everything as afterall there is still very less as user friendly ways to rank links....Laymans immediately notice sites with high PRs...they know a high PR means site has some repute and gets some traffic guranteed. I have sold numerous links on my PR 5 website...and none of the buyers hesitated in buying the links from me since PR 5 for them means some good traffic to their sites also.
SO I don't think PR has lost importance and webmasters should give it as importance as they give for other SEO techniques. Afterall first thing one notices about a site's rank is its PR in toolbar!!
I think that PR is quite important in a website. Although it isn't really what should be focused on by webmasters.
I have PRs on five of the domains that I own, but I do not focus on these in any sales that I make. These may contribute to a sale (for example a PR4 site will sell for more than a site with no PR), but in my opinion the design, content and functionality of a website should be more prominent.
The fact that it is purely based on backlinks is also not very sensible, because these backlinks can be easily changed by spamming websites; and people who do such things should not be rewarded for this.
If a PR is earned properly though, I think that it is a good base for determining the popularity of a website and that it is a good system and should be kept for the future.
About PR, i have a online radio station website, and my PR was 3 after 3 month of creation. I dont know why?, my site has 1,000 uniques visits per day thats the reason?
Now i know more about PR and i did learn one thing :
Dont care about PR , is more important to keep your site well, with good news and innovations.
If u do that probably your PR will be higher.
Some people just want to have a higher, I want to have a great and better site
I have a couple websites. However, I don't care much about PR. I am still learning on how to raise the PR. I guess it looks good for some individuals But for the main user they could careless. In conclusion, I am NOT Addicted to PR.
I have designed, maintained and owned many websites and their was a time when I was hooked on each site page rank. I though the higher my pr rank then the higher the price I could sell my site, the more money I oculd charge for adds and the better postion I would have on google but that all changed when I relised that you can fradulantly build a high page rank by just using a 301 page redirect to a site with the page rank that you want to see! This changed my opion on page rank and although I still like knowing that I have a high page rank I have also learnt that it is nowadays not as important as it was first and that it can easily be scammed as such. Despite saying this I do believe that I still get more visits due to my high page rank and I am trusted more as an established site but nowadays it is not as important as it once was.
I am owner of 3 directories, 2 forums and 2 websites. Pagerank to mean holds somewhat importance as it increases the value of adspace on my entire network. However getting good pagerank now is easy now for me as any new site would get good pagerank just by listing it on my present sites which have minimum PR of 4.
Pagerank also means i rank good in keywords/keyphrases in all SEs. This in turn leads to good traffic which is essential part of any business. Although PR may not be worry for other webmasters, it sure does effect me a little. But i am totally now dependent on PR for my adspace and traffic but having good one increases popularity and gives out more options to you.
Regards,
Admans.
Pagerank is very important to me for many reasons. It seems like in todays competitive society you need to have a high page rank if you want to recieve alot of money when selling sites and domain names to people. I often see nosense domains being sold for thoudsands of dollars, purely because of its high pr. Not only does pagerank increase your profits, but it will greatly increase traffic to your site.
Being a new webmaster myself, I think PR is very important, and yes, a webmaster should get sad if his site dropped from PR5 to PR3.
PR is simply the first thing an advertiser looks at before deciding where to advertise !
My first website started as a PR2, 2 months later it was promoted to PR3. The difference was amazing, the revenue I started making from the site increased by 20% since then !
I own one web site that has a PageRank of 3, and I believe that it has truly helped my site get many visitors. Google is the most used search engine, and PageRank is very important when you are striving to get visitors to your site. Also, PageRank can help you get affiliates. They will want to be an affiliate because they know that putting a link on your site will get more visitors to their site.
I view pagerank as one indication of my sites' value. Some many disagree with with my belief, stating "pagerank is highly overated and means absolutely nothing." But, lets face the fact; the higher the pagerank, the more money you can make through advertisement(s).
The only value I see with Page Rank is that it is another way to evaluate a website and whether a link from that website would be useful for you. However, I do not feel that it should be the only value to look at. People think that just because it is from Google, then it must be meaningful but that is just not the case anymore.
Well the thing about PR's is that it isn't cut and dry. I own two websites, one's a .info the other is a .com. The .info has a PR of 3 and does fairly well.. my other site is a PR2, the hits are basically the same on both pages, but I'm able to sell ads on my PR3 much easier than my PR2. Maybe I'll never know the way these rankings work, but the more original content the better (which my PR3 has over my PR2) :)
I don't know why pagerank fluctuates with certain sites more than others. Especially if the extension is an .info and not .com. Especially since more people consider .com more valuable.
I agree one can sell text links for more money if a site has high PR regardless of traffic. It all depends on what the site owner is looking for. Traffic or a way to bump up ones PR in the next Google Gods round of PR placement.
I can tell you im hooked on pagerank. One, it gives me an indication as to how much a website might be worth, and two how much better my site needs to be. Some dont really follow it, and more people hate it.
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I'm always trying to boost my PR. I've had some websites in the past that were PR4 and I got a noticeable increase in hits from Google, and that was very nice. However, I don't only get PR for more visits from Google. Selling ad space is much easier when your page has PR, and selling links can become a very nice extra source of income for your site.
PR is really good for the business sites. Like domain name registration,web hosting and other business. The site can get customer through search result. But what about your local site. I mean like your personal site,your organisation which do not have any business like club.They do not need that anyway. I have a site for my college students. I just have a hording board in college then thats working fine. All students visit the site. I actually do not need other visitors outside of college also. So pr is necessary for business only in my view.
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I own just one .com website but I find that I get more traffic from yahoo, msn etc. than Google. This is because Google seems to place greater importance on how many sites link to my website rather than how relevant my content is to user queries. Yahoo and msn on the other hand place greater emphasis on relevant search results than back links. So my website enjoys better search engine positions on these other search engines than on Google.
Furthermore, I think it is easier to get a better position on search results on yahoo and msn than on Google. This is because Google indexes the most number of webpages and so competition for positions is higher than in the other search engines. I think webmasters will find that at times it is more profitable to invest in optimizing sites for yahoo and msn rather than for Google. And let us not forget that once IE 7 comes a lot of firefox and mozilla users are going to switch over and thereby increase the importance of MSN results.
I love Google PR. It's always a good indicator of how well your website is doing. It's even better when you want to sell ADs on your website. The higher the PR the more money you can expect to get. It is truly a salubrious addition. Google is simply the leader.
Personally, I own several websites and have sold several websites before. Therefore, PR is really useful to me. According to the PR, I can sell my websites in higher price. However, this should not be used as a only factor in advertising websites. This is only one way of doing it.
I've owned a lot of sites in my time and one thing i've learned is pagerank does have importance.With out a decient pagerank,you won't a have decient amount visitors.Plus with now selling domains the importance of pagerank jumps even higher becoming another thing to worry about.
Personally i do not own any websites with a high PR, as i only recently started buying domains and creating content/websites to go along with them, therefore pagerank has never meant anything to me.
But now i have started to buy domains and such, PR seems like it is a necessity to all successfull websites and developers, as it proves that your website is popular and trustworthy.
If your site has brilliant content, that people will keep want to coming back for, then the word spreads of a good website therefore increasing your traffic, links to your site, and consequently a higher PR.
Although saying all that, PR isnt everything, your website can still be very successfull, without a high PR, such as businesses which dont get very many hits, but sell products often, and for a profitable price.
So knowing all this, I want to think that PR is a good thing, and makes your website more acknowledgeable to people.
I have never really owned my own domain though it is something I am attempting to obtain in the near future.
I have run a successful fansite however on a freewebs server and took that to PR3. That was quite the experience.
I am very interested in learning SEO and PageRank in all aspects. It's a fascinating topic and one I plan to spend more time on getting to know.
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